Episode 12b: The Simpsons Tackle Depression & Anxiety! Part 2: Was the Simpsons good for mental illness stigma? (with Nathan Phillips)

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Simpsons part 2 is here! For our second part of episode 12, special guest Nathan Phillips and Steph look at the two episodes Moaning Lisa (Season 1 episode 6) and Fear of Flying (Season 6 episode 11), the stereotypes of the Simpsons and how they evolved (or devolved), and how these episodes shaped our understanding of mental illness. Is Bart society?? Should Maggie be at a jazz club or should she be in bed?? Find out now!

Also this is actually what "Loewenstein" is from, and it is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POqV7gjuCiY 

 

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CONTENT WARNING: Panic attacks and anxiety symptoms, phobia of flying, discussion of plane crashes, depression, coercive control, mental illness stigma, verbal/emotional abuse, misogyny/toxic masculinity/shit husbandry, homophobia/transphobia

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Nathan Phillips

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

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REFERENCES!:

They Shoot Lambeths Don't They?: How 'Moaning Lisa' Tackled Depression and it's Outcomes

The Andrew Blog: How 'Moaning Lisa' Learns to Make Something Out of Sadness

"The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by John Ortved

Talking Simpsons Interview with Mimi Pond

Neil Tesser's interview with Matt Groening in Playboy, 1990 

Matt Groening Interview with The Advocate

The gay lifestyle magazine featuring Smithers (GENRE, not Out, apologies!), published March 1996.

Academy of Television Art and Science’s five hour interview with James L. Brooks (not Museum of Television and Radio as cited in show sorry!)

Marc Maron’s interview with Sam Simon

1995 interview with David Mirkin 

Recent and rare extensive interview with legendary original simpsons write John Schwartzwelder

Longtime supervising director David Silverman's Twitter (https://twitter.com/tubatron) is an excellent source of information and he is very forthcoming with answering general production questions.

DSM classifications for Specific Phobia

DSM 3- TR Major Depressive Disorder 

Audio commentaries, scripts and deleted scenes on the commercial DVD sets of Season 1 and Season 6.