PSYCHOCINEMATIC

Episode 59: Lets watch Stutz and talk about the Jonah Hill texts

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We’re back to our regular programming with a fun debate between a future psychiatrist and a psychologist, as Michael Watson joins Steph to talk Stutz, the Netflix documentary “about” Dr Phil Stutz created by Jonah Hill. Steph & Michael discuss how the unique revolutionary techniques Stutz employs aren’t quite so unique or revolutionary, and what Jonah was trying and succeeding to portray from this film. BUTTT OF COURSE within the context of the wild and gross texts that Jonah’s ex Sarah Brady shared from the actor in July this year. What do the texts say about how effective the therapy portrayed in Stutz actually is? And what actually IS a boundary? 
 
Special thanks to Laura Packer for sound editing <3
 
CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of emotional abuse, coercive control, body shaming, death of a sibling (very brief)
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REFERENCES:
SKEPTIC’s REVIEW: “Stutz” (2022) | NETFLIX Documentary | Movie Analysis - PSYCHOLOGY CORNER
Film Review: The Therapeutic Relationship in "Stutz" | Psychology Today Australia
Review: Stutz | View from the shrink's couch (reelgood.com.au)
Stutz Review: Jonah Hill’s Cagey Netflix Doc About His Psychiatrist – IndieWire
Let’s Call Jonah Hill’s Alleged Text Messages What They Are: Misogynistic | Vogue
Ethical principles of psychologists and code of conduct (apa.org)
Netflix psychiatrist Phil Stutz says 85% of early therapy gains are down to lifestyle changes. Is he right? (theconversation.com)
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Episode 58 Tribute Re-release: Rubber Johnny, a wildly problematic viral short film (with Nic Fornasier)

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Our 2nd tribute episode to our beloved Nic Fornasier is here, with a special release from the Patron archives.
Nic joined Steph to gush about Chris Cunningham and his controversial (and deeply problematic) short film, Rubber Johnny. Nic shares why he loves it so much and how it inspired his own passion for film, as well as highlights the exciting time of early 00's music videos.
Then of course Steph shares why it’s such a yucky depiction of disability and debate exactly how problematic it is. Nic's love for Chris Cunningham doesn't diminish but he learns a thing or two about disability representation maybe?
Watch the short film Rubber Johnny, with music by Aphex Twin, directed by Chris Cunningham.
Content warning: abuse, chemical restraint/prn due to behaviour, drug use, disability used as horror, discussion of visual gore and ableist tropes. Nothing bad happens to the dog.
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
We also mention:
The Gucci ad
Windowlicker by Aphex Twin (dir. Chris Cunningham)
Come To Daddy by Aphex Twin (dir. Chris Cunningham)
Salad Fingers (by David Firth)
References:
Halloween Love: Remembering Rubber Johnny: The Disturbing Short Film That Inspired the Horror Genre
Aphex Twin: Rubber Johnny - 4:3
Rubber Johnny by Chris Cunningham & Aphex Twin – Sound Art Zone
Hydrocephalus | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
Imdb page
Snopes entry
 

Episode 57 Tribute Re-release: The Royal Tenenbaums (with Nic Fornasier)

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Today we pay tribute to brother and editor of the podcast Nic Fornasier (11.10.1990 – 22.6.2023). We release in one episode, 2021’s originally 2 parter episode, where Nic joins Steph as they explore the dysfunctional family opus, The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), Directed by Wes Anderson and written by Wes and Owen Wilson, it was Nic and Steph’s shared favourite film of all time.
 
Together they asked the question, can narcissistic dads who abandon their kids make up for the resulting trauma? And if so does this movie portray this situation with nuance and respect? Steph and Nic do their best at diagnosing the characters, discuss how the family relates to their own lives, and whether the Wes-isms in the film are helpful or harmful for the viewer.
 
We dedicate this episode to Nic. We love you Niccie.
 
 
CONTENT WARNING: Suicide (particularly from 1:35:13 – 1:39:18), substance use and addiction (including personal experiences), depression, self harm, childhood emotional manipulation and neglect, cancer, discussions of sexual content, death of a family member, death of a dog, incest??
 
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
 
REFERENCES:
· You are Good (Formerly Why Are Dads) podcast episode on The Royal Tenenbaums
· Vulture: How Wes Anderson Made the Royal Tenenbaums
· Screen Rant: 10 behind the scenes facts about the Royal Tenenbaums
· Abilene Christian University: Who's Your Daddy?: A Psychological Analysis of Father-Son Relationships in Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums 
· Little White Lies: How Wes Anderson’s families helped me recover from the breakdown of my own 
· University of Rhode Island: When the alternative becomes hegemonic: A textual analysis of the Royal Tenenbaums 
· The Dissolve: The Royal Tenenbaums forum: Failure, depression, and other varieties of family fun
· The Jugular: The Psychology of Failure: The Royal Tenenbaums, Melancholy and Growing Pains
· On Psychology and Neuroscience: The Life Psychotic with Wes Anderson
· One Room With A View: The Royal Tenenbaums And The Art Of Tragicomedy
· Screen Queens: #CriterionMonth: The sexist portrayal of Margot Tenenbaum in Wes Anderson’s the Royal Tenenbaums. 
· Flipscreened: The Wes Dispatch #3: Trauma, Grief and Accepting Help in ‘The Royal Tenenbaums

Episode 56: Inclusion in action in How To Train Your Dragon (with Lo Nigrosh)

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Today we are joined by Lo Nigrosh, IBCLC, childbirth educator and paralympian, and delve into the world of Vikings and Dragons, in the Dreamworks franchise How To Train Your Dragon. Lo shares her experience with limb difference and how she feels represented in the film, as well as the use of prosthetics, and how the town of Berk represents an inclusive society. There's themes of parenting, war, disability acceptance, and Lo also shares with us her experience becoming a Paralympic athlete. Steph shares that How to Train Your Dragon is now her toddler's current obsession and it's all Lo's fault.
See Lo in her Bronze Medal with her paralympic teammates HERE!
Follow Lo, access her lactation consultant supports, and listen to her brilliant podcast The Milk Making Minutes via the below links!
 
Book a Lactation Visit With Me Through Insurance
www.quabbinbirthservices.com
Listen on Amazon Music
Listen on Apple
Listen on Spotify
Instagram
The Milk Making Minutes Community Group
 
CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of ableism and ableist tropes, limb loss, breast & body feeding, postnatal mental health.
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REFERENCES:
'You don’t need to dumb down for children in any way whatsoever': Cressida Cowell on her new book, writing for children and Einstein's quotability | BookTrust
‘How to Train Your Dragon′ 3 revisits empowering depictions embraced by amputees - The Washington Post
How to Train Your Dragon's Refreshing Approach To Disability - One Room With A View
How to Train Your Dragon – Disability Movies
How ‘How To Train Your Dragon’ Makes Disabilities Normal – arbezlife (wordpress.com)
Disabled Representation in the How To Train Your Dragon Film Trilogy (tfurj.com)
The Fries Test: On Disability Representation in Our Culture | by Kenny Fries | Medium
Well Intentioned: America Ferrera Is Recognizing Her Own Strength and Welcoming Inspiration | Vogue
Jay Baruchel Opens Up About Generalized Anxiety Disorder: ‘Very Small’ Things ‘Felt Insurmountable’ | ETCanada.com
 
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Episode 55: Heartbreak High aka All Hail Queen Chloe Hayden (with Zoe Simmons)

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Welcome to Hartley High, where the kids are much much cooler than we ever were but also more relatable than they’ve ever been. Join disability advocate, journalist and copywriter Zoe Simmons, as she discusses with Steph what she related to in Netflix’s 2022 reboot of iconic Australian series, Heartbreak High. Steph and Zoe discuss how the writers really strived to provide appropriate representation, what landed and what didn’t, and ok spoiler - how the character of Quinni played by Chloe Hayden is hands down the best autistic representation we have seen to date. Also, learn what an Eshay is! Kids these days, amirite?
Follow Zoe on Twitter @ItBeingsWithZ & Instagram @SomethingBeginningWithZ and check out her copywriting website here: Zoe Simmons
CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, racial violence, drug & alcohol use, sexual assault, ableism, suicidal ideation
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REFERENCES:
Unmasking Female Autistic Representation on TV — Kill Your Darlings.
What the Heartbreak High reboot gets right about Fi... | NIT
Heartbreak High has the best representation of autism I've ever seen
Hannah Carroll Chapman, Heartbreak High writer: I jumped so high my neck almost snapped | ScreenHub Australia - Film & Television Jobs, News, Reviews & Screen Industry Data
Heartbreak High: Australian drama wins hearts around the world with its authentic representation | SBS News
Ayesha Madon On How Heartbreak High Flips The Narrative
PEOPLE OF NOTE: ASHER YASBINCEK, WILL MCDONALD & TOM WEATHERALL BY ROBBIE FIMMANO
Heartbreak High has the best representation of autism I've ever seen
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
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Episode 54: Frozen is Psychoeducation for kids... and adults (with Laura Pettenuzzo)

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For the first time in forever, we’re analyzing FROZEN! Join Steph and the delightful and beautifully articulate disability and mental health advocacy writer Laura Pettenuzzo as they fangirl over one of Disney’s best and biggest (and feminisest?) films. We delve into how perfectly the film encapsulates mental illness, its impact and how to manage it, and attempt to figure out their own GAD Sister’s handshake.
 
Follow Laura on twitter & instagram @thisgirl_writes and read her wonderful work here: Laura Pettenuzzo – Books, mental health and disability. (wordpress.com) (including her work on ABC, SBS, HireUp and The Guardian!)
 
CONTENT WARNING: Suicidal behaviour & ideation, anxiety, depression
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Check out the Vampire Insider Podcast on all good podcast apps!!
 
REFERENCES:
‘Awards Chatter’ Podcast — Santino Fontana (‘Tootsie’) – The Hollywood Reporter
Kristen Bell First Felt ‘Dark Cloud’ of Anxiety and Depression at 18 (prevention.com)
Josh Gad Talks About His Generalized Anxiety Disorder (fherehab.com)
Mental Health Awareness Month: How “Frozen” Thaws Fearful Hearts
'Mindhunter' Actor Jonathan Groff On His Most Life-Altering Roles : NPR
What Disney’s ‘Frozen’ can teach us about mental illness - The Washington Post
 
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Episode 53: Wednesday and coded vs canonized neurodivergent characters (with Jeremy Andrew Davis)

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Welcome to the kooky world of the Addams family - or an allegory for the neurodivergent experience?? The viral tiktoker and film maker Jeremy Andrew Davis joins Steph to talk about Netflix's Wednesday (2022), and how much Wednesday is coded autistic, whether intentionally or not... or is she coded something else?
Jeremy delves into the importance of appropriate representation in film & TV, what it means for a representation to be coded or canonized, and how writing a neurodivergent character led to his own diagnosis. Also Siri adds her own opinions in the mix, which are scarily appropriate.
 
Follow Jeremy for his excellent advocacy on tiktok @jeremyandrewdavis and instagram @jeremyandrewdavis and check out his website including films & writing here: www.jeremyandrewdavis.com !!
 
Also check the author Jeremy mentioned here: Sci-Fi Author Christopher Hopper
 
And neurodivergent screening tools mentioned here: Embrace Autism | The ultimate autism resource (embrace-autism.com)
 
CONTENT WARNING: discussion of ableism, murder & death
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REFERENCES:
Famous People With High-Functioning Autism – Tim Burton | Verbal Behavior Associates (vbacalifornia.com)
'Wednesday' Star Jenna Ortega Experiences 'Post-Work Depression' (cheatsheet.com)
“Wednesday”’s Christina Ricci Opens Up About Mental Health, Motherhood, and Being a ‘90s Icon: BUST Exclusive Interview
Prozac Nation with Christina Ricci | Psychology Today Australia
15 Ways Wednesday Addams is Cool and Autistic | by The Autlaw | Medium
I’m neurodivergent and here’s my issue with Netflix’s Wednesday | The Sun
Wednesday's neurodivergent coding is both good and bad
Schizoid personality disorder - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Episode 52: Ode to Joy and what Narcolepsy REALLY looks like (with Charlene Barker)

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What do Moulin Rouge, My Private Idaho, and cheesy comedies Deuce Bigalow and Rat Race have in common? Terrible depictions of Narcolepsy!
Today, Steph is joined by the fashionably creative and wonderful Charlene Barker, to discuss her real life experience of Narcolepsy with Cataplexy, and how it is depicted in the romantic comedy Ode To Joy, starring Martin Freeman. Charlene takes us through what life is like with Narcolepsy and if this film does it justice. Can’t be worse than Rowan Atkinson falling asleep mid jog can it??? (p.s. You can watch Ode to Joy here on youtube for $4)
Follow Charlene @charlenegirl and check out her amazing handmade jewelry @langlesandlings and vintage preloved clothing @volupture!
 
CONTENT WARNING: injury, car accident, nightmares, some ableist terms.
 
The Podcast episode the film was based on:
I've Fallen In Love and I Can't Get Up - This American Life
Project Sleep Resources connected to the film:
Ode to Joy” PSA
Ode to Joy: Resources | IFC Films
Ode to Joy - Project Sleep (project-sleep.com)
Short Film “Walking Through Peanut Butter” which we also discuss:
Walking through Peanut Butter | Short Comedy - YouTube
 
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REFERENCES:
Cataplexy: Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment | Sleep Foundation
Narcolepsy - Treatment - NHS (www.nhs.uk)
I have narcolepsy, and it's nothing like what you see in movies (mic.com)
Narcolepsy is more than a Hollywood punchline, experts explain this mysterious condition - The Hollywood Digest
\A Comedy of Errors: Ode to Joy's Inaccurate Portrayal of Narcolepsy with Cataplexy - Wake Up Narcolepsy
- ‘Ode to Joy’ Filmmaker on Long Journey From Studio Rejection to Indie Release – The Hollywood Reporter
Martin Freeman: ‘The worst thing anyone’s said to me? "I don’t love you"’ | Martin Freeman | The Guardian
Writer and Actor Anna Marr Channels Comedy and Personal Experiences While Combating Stereotypes About Narcolepsy in Short Film Walking Through Peanut Butter - RespectAbility
 
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Episode 51: Reasons to like Please Like Me (with Dr. Elise McGlashan)

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Today Steph welcomes back Dr Elise McGlashan to chat deeply about one of her favourite TV shows, Please Like Me. The creation of one of Australia’s beloved comics, Josh Thomas, Please Like Me delves deeply on many mental health issues, including Bipolar Disorder, depression, anxiety, grief, suicide, self harm, as well as abortion, friendship and sexuality. But somehow it is also hilarious??? Join us as we assess how well Josh depicts these topics, and how much he reminds Steph of her husband.*
Please note we recorded this episode a few months back, it is no longer hot :( Also Debra Lawrence (Josh’s Mum) is now on I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here!
*if you know Michael you know this is true.
 
CONTENT WARNING: ***Suicide, suicidal ideation, self harm**, panic attack, grief, sex, abortion, death, hospitalization, depression, anxiety, ableism.
 
Follow Elise on instagram @emcglashan and Twitter @elisemcglashan! Also check out her reccos - The Split (TV series) and Normal Gossip (podcast)
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REFERENCES:
Black Dog Institute
the National Alliance on Mental Health
Josh Thomas’s Comedy of Self-Diagnosis | The New Yorker
Please Like Me Abortion On TV (refinery 29)
How Please Like Me became one of TV's most honest and devastating shows | Josh Thomas | The Guardian
'Please Like Me' Is the Best Show About Mental Illness You're Not Watching (mic.com)
We still like Pippa, even if she's Rose | The West Australian
Please Like Me: Josh Thomas explains suicide story line in final season | EW.com
Debra Lawrance explains why Rose on Please Like Me is the best job she’s ever had | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site
'Please Like Me' actress posts about her abortion to support Planned Parenthood | Mashable
Hannah Gadsby on her autism diagnosis: ‘I’ve always been plagued by a sense that I was a little out of whack’ | Hannah Gadsby | The Guardian
 
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Episode 50: What America’s Next Top Model taught us about bodies, beauty, gender and how to be on top (with Clinton McQueen)

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WOW WELCOME TO EPISODE 50! So completely chuffed that we achieved this milestone! *FANFARE AND STREAMERS*
The fabulously articulate (it’s his job) Clinton McQueen joins us to unpack in great detail the legacy of Americas Next Top Model, specifically Cycle 11. We discuss how the series perpetuated beauty and body standards, and tackled issues of race, gender, sexuality, mental illness and disability. We also unpack how they portrayed the inclusion of first transgender model on the series (Isis King) and what it meant for the world. Because as you should know, trans women are women, and trans lives matter.
To rewatch the ANTM season (if you so choose) click here!
 
Please note we recorded this episode before the abhorrent Anti-trans and Nazi attended March occurred in Melbourne and only make note of the anti-trans movements occurring overseas. I very much wish I didn’t have to make this note. 
 
CONTENT WARNING: body image and fat phobia, transphobia, homophobia, and sex work stigma, ableist language. Clinton and Steph do get a few pronouns and terms wrong despite attempts to do so (we refer to James St James as ‘he’ however he identifies with all pronouns). 
 
Follow Clinton @boyblinkquick on insta and find out if he ups his selfie game!
 
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REFERENCES:
Ask the Director: Marjorie Conrad talks about life after “Top Model” and her debut “Chemical Cut” | Read | The Take (the-take.com)
'America's Next Top Model' alum Lisa D'Amato accused Tyra Banks of using her 'childhood trauma' against her  
Did America’s Next Top Model Girls Have Eating Disorders? | OptimistMinds
Did ANTM Cross The Line By Ignoring A Model’s Disability? | by Whitney Foster | Medium
America’s Next Top Model star Isis King reveals show's 'hurtful' comments made her stronger | HELLO! (hellomagazine.com)
Isis King Discusses Going from Homeless Transgender to Top Model | Teen Vogue
Meet America's Next Top Model's first ever deaf contestant Nyle DiMarco (dailymail.co.uk)
How ‘America’s Next Top Model’ Gaslighted the Models and Violated Their Boundaries | by Luna Laz | Write Like a Girl | Medium 
'America's Next Top Model' House Had No Bathroom Doors (businessinsider.com)
 
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!