PSYCHOCINEMATIC
A podcast analysing depictions of mental illness and disabilities in film and TV. Hosted by a psychologist, Stephanie, and friends with lived experience. We may ruin your favourite movie, but we promise to do it with fun, humour, and perhaps an important lesson or two.
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Friday Dec 03, 2021
Friday Dec 03, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Happy International Day of People with Disability!!
Join me (Steph) as I have a big gush about the documentary Crip Camp and a little rant about ableism, and direct your attention to the ‘mother of disability’ Judy Heumann as well as some of the many disability activists that I look to, leading the work in inclusion in Australia and the world.
This episode was to be only available to everyone via patreon for one day before it went to exclusive patreon content but then I thought, nah! Here it is forever. However Patreon subscription fees for December and January will go to People With Disability Australia (People with Disability Australia – A Voice of our Own (pwd.org.au) a national disability rights, advocacy and representative organisation that is made up of, led and governed by people with disability.
DONATE DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY AUSTRALIA HERE: Donate Now (grassrootz.com)
VERY IMPORTANT LINKS:
International Day of People with Disability (idpwd.com.au)
Crip Camp | A Disability Revolution
“Crip Camp” Pieces Together the U.S. History of Disability Rights | Bitch Media
Judy Heumann | Disability Rights Advocate | Judithheumann
Factually! with Adam Conover: The Extraordinary History of the Disability Rights Movement with Judy Heumann on Apple Podcasts
The Heumann Perspective on Apple Podcasts
Jordon Steele-John | Greens WA
The I Can't Stand Podcast (icantstandpodcast.com)
Carly Findlay – Writer, speaker, appearance activist. Loving life!
ABC Ramp Up – Disability, Discussion, Debate (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)(archived)
Stella Young: I'm not your inspiration, thank you very much | TED Talk
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram as we highlight disability activists on our page (and follow all the activists!)!: @psychocinematicpodcast
Host, editor: Steph Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
It’s our 20th episode Psychocinemaniacs! Who knew we’d make it this far!
Buckle up for some wild rides as we delve into the 3 biggest movies of their decades featuring Dissociative Identity Disorder*. Primal Fear (1996), Identity (2003) and Split (2016). Steph and Maz discuss the wild assertions each film make, and the actual statistics around criminal activity, murder, and dissociative identity disorder. Also if there are any lawyers in the house we are sorry we don't know legal facts!!!
*Ok obviously Fight Club will be covered in a later episode. Maybe our 50th?
Content Warning: Self harm, sexual abuse, physical abuse, kidnapping, trauma, violence, murder, ableist tropes, sex and sex-work shaming, death. Spoilers for Psycho, Mr Robot and Fight Club.
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Maz Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
REFERENCES:
Top 10 Dissociative Identity Disorder Movies (Multiple Personality)
The butler(s) DID it - dissociative identity disorder in cinema
Primal Fear (1996) – Psychopathology in Film
Dissociative identity disorder: No excuse for criminal activity
Mental illness and violent behavior: the role of dissociation - Borderline Personality Disorder and Emotion Dysregulation
Dissociative identity disorder: No excuse for criminal activity
Mind Over Pop Culture: Primal Fear
From Split to Psycho: why cinema fails dissociative identity disorder
Wednesday Sep 15, 2021
Wednesday Sep 15, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Maz and Steph finally present to you the magnum opus of podcast content about Mental Illness in film. They watched both versions of telemovies Sybil, and now you don’t have to. That, is the 1976 version starring Sally Field and Joanne Woodward, and the 2007 version starring Jessica Lange and Tammie Blanchard. (Our cover image contains the font they used in that 2007 version, which is harmful to my soul).
Get your ears prepped as we unpack the true story which inspired Sybil, and the cultural impact it had on diagnoses of Multiple Personality Disorder, which was since renamed Dissociative Identity Disorder, and all the ins and outs of what DID is and dissociation itself. PLEASE note trigger warning, this one is a bit of a trauma minefield.
CONTENT WARNING: severe child abuse, including sexual and physical violence and rape, and emotional abuse, suicide, self harm, PTSD, substance use, anxiety, panic attack, ableism, unethical therapeutic behaviour, sexism, miscarriage/death of newborn, violent death, transphobia
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Maz Fornasier
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow us on Insta, Twitter, TIKTOK lol, and sign up to our Patreon
REFERENCES
CBC: The true story behind Sybil and her multiple personalities
NY Times: A girl not named Sybil
NPR: Real ‘Sybil’ admits multiple personalities were fake
Wikipedia: Shirley Ardell Mason
Wikipedia: Dissociative Identity Disorder
Psychiatry.org: What are Dissociative Disorders
Sane Australia: Dissociative Identity Disorder
You’re Wrong About episode on Multiple Personality Disorder
Factually! With Adam Conover episode on ADHD
Andrew Nanton, M. (2021). Sybil Exposed: A Look at Dissociative Identity Disorder. Retrieved 3 September 2021, from https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/sybil-exposed-look-dissociative-identity-disorder
Boysen, G. (2011). The Scientific Status of Childhood Dissociative Identity Disorder: A Review of Published Research. Psychotherapy And Psychosomatics, 80(6), 329-334. doi: 10.1159/000323403
DRAAISMA, D. (2015). Forgetting. NEW HAVEN: YALE University Press.
Lynn, S., Lilienfeld, S., Merckelbach, H., Giesbrecht, T., & van der Kloet, D. (2012). Dissociation and Dissociative Disorders. Current Directions In Psychological Science, 21(1), 48-53. doi: 10.1177/0963721411429457
Sybil, A Case Of Multiple Personality: The Natural History of a Myth. (2004). Journal Of Social Distress And The Homeless, 13(1-2), 167-187. doi: 10.1080/10530789.2004.11739502
Thursday Jun 24, 2021
Thursday Jun 24, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Here is part 2 bbs!
In this episode, Maz gets political, which means she does smoke a lot in the recording. She also does the best impression of Chet Hanks I've ever heard.
We talk about the myriad of terrible stereotypes this movie highlights, and of course the harmful message not only to people with intellectual impairments, but to the American people who were about to vote in the 1994 election. This is a disability/mental health podcast, but sometimes we need to digress!
Special thanks to You’re Wrong About podcast for coining the term “it was capitalism all along”, we love you v much.
CONTENT WARNING: Ableism, substance use and dependence, suicide, self harm, war, PTSD, death at war, historical views on intellectual impairment, HIV related illness and death, racism, a few swears.
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Maz Fornasier
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematicor join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com!
Sling us a buck on our patreon!: https://www.patreon.com/psychocinematic
References:
Onstage Blog "What About Forrest Gump" and Other Bad Opinions on Disability in Arts & Culture
LA Times: ‘Gump’ Isn’t the Answer for Real Understanding
Forbes: 'Forrest Gump' at 25: Disability Representation (For Better and Worse)
Contingent: Gump Talk
PapersOwl: Disability in American Society
The Greyhound: Misportrayal of disabled persons in the media
IndieWire: ‘Forrest Gump,’ 25 Years Later: A Bad Movie That Gets Worse With Age
Collider: The Cheerful Nihilism of ‘Forrest Gump’, 25 Years Later
GQ: Why Forrest Gump is a poisonous film
Lynchburg College: The Portrayal of Individuals with Developmental Disabilities within the Media: A Critique of Six Films Produced Across Sixteen Years
Ranker: 16 Extremely Messed Up Things About Forrest Gump That'll Change How You See It
Films Deconstructed: Why I Hate Forrest Gump with the Heat of a Thousand Suns
CNN: Why we loved - and hated - 'Forrest Gump'
Distractify: 'Forrest Gump' Was Loosely Based on a Real Person (or Two).
Screen Rant: Forrest Gump True Story: Every Historical Event & How Accurate They Are
Wednesday Jun 23, 2021
Wednesday Jun 23, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Today, Maz and I discuss THE FILM of 1994 (because the academy inappropriately sidelined Pulp Fiction), directed by Robert Zemeckis and written by Eric Roth. Part 1 starts to unravel some of the reasons why you probably shouldn’t love this movie including how the character of Forrest was developed, its depiction of disability, and how it trivializes events of American history.
Tomorrow you’ll get part 2 when we delve into stereotypes and whether the film made a positive or negative impact on the world. It's very POLITICAL. Best listened to with a box of chocolates, I guess?
That podcast Steph was referring to is Nice White Parents (New York Times).
CONTENT WARNING: Ableism, substance use and dependence, suicide, self harm, war, PTSD, death at war, historical views on intellectual impairment, HIV related illness and death, bias against long hair on men
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Maz Fornasier
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematicor join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com!
Sling us a buck on our patreon!: https://www.patreon.com/psychocinematic
References:
Onstage Blog "What About Forrest Gump" and Other Bad Opinions on Disability in Arts & Culture
LA Times: ‘Gump’ Isn’t the Answer for Real Understanding
Forbes: 'Forrest Gump' at 25: Disability Representation (For Better and Worse)
Contingent: Gump Talk
PapersOwl: Disability in American Society
The Greyhound: Misportrayal of disabled persons in the media
IndieWire: ‘Forrest Gump,’ 25 Years Later: A Bad Movie That Gets Worse With Age
Collider: The Cheerful Nihilism of ‘Forrest Gump’, 25 Years Later
GQ: Why Forrest Gump is a poisonous film
Lynchburg College: The Portrayal of Individuals with Developmental Disabilities within the Media: A Critique of Six Films Produced Across Sixteen Years
Ranker: 16 Extremely Messed Up Things About Forrest Gump That'll Change How You See It
Films Deconstructed: Why I Hate Forrest Gump with the Heat of a Thousand Suns
CNN: Why we loved - and hated - 'Forrest Gump'
Distractify: 'Forrest Gump' Was Loosely Based on a Real Person (or Two).
Screen Rant: Forrest Gump True Story: Every Historical Event & How Accurate They Are
Friday May 21, 2021
Friday May 21, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Simpsons part 2 is here! For our second part of episode 12, special guest Nathan Phillips and Steph look at the two episodes Moaning Lisa (Season 1 episode 6) and Fear of Flying (Season 6 episode 11), the stereotypes of the Simpsons and how they evolved (or devolved), and how these episodes shaped our understanding of mental illness. Is Bart society?? Should Maggie be at a jazz club or should she be in bed?? Find out now!
Also this is actually what "Loewenstein" is from, and it is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POqV7gjuCiY
Follow Nathan at @startstowearmedown on Instagram or twitter https://twitter.com/dustybooks , read more of his thoughts on music, movies and life at dusty-books.com , and get his newsletter at https://letterboxd.com/dustybooks/
CONTENT WARNING: Panic attacks and anxiety symptoms, phobia of flying, discussion of plane crashes, depression, coercive control, mental illness stigma, verbal/emotional abuse, misogyny/toxic masculinity/shit husbandry, homophobia/transphobia
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Nathan Phillips
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com!
Check out our special music episode by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic
REFERENCES!:
They Shoot Lambeths Don't They?: How 'Moaning Lisa' Tackled Depression and it's Outcomes
The Andrew Blog: How 'Moaning Lisa' Learns to Make Something Out of Sadness
"The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by John Ortved
Talking Simpsons Interview with Mimi Pond
Neil Tesser's interview with Matt Groening in Playboy, 1990
Matt Groening Interview with The Advocate
The gay lifestyle magazine featuring Smithers (GENRE, not Out, apologies!), published March 1996.
Academy of Television Art and Science’s five hour interview with James L. Brooks (not Museum of Television and Radio as cited in show sorry!)
Marc Maron’s interview with Sam Simon
1995 interview with David Mirkin
Recent and rare extensive interview with legendary original simpsons write John Schwartzwelder
Longtime supervising director David Silverman's Twitter (https://twitter.com/tubatron) is an excellent source of information and he is very forthcoming with answering general production questions.
DSM classifications for Specific Phobia
DSM 3- TR Major Depressive Disorder
Audio commentaries, scripts and deleted scenes on the commercial DVD sets of Season 1 and Season 6.
Tuesday May 18, 2021
Tuesday May 18, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Here we are in the Simpsons universe!
For our first part of episode 12, special guest Nathan Phillips and Steph look at the two episodes Moaning Lisa (Season 1 episode 6) and Fear of Flying (Season 6 episode 11), the history of the early Simpsons, and how accurate we believe their depictions of mental illness and therapy are, with a bit of our own experience thrown in. Nathan is a walking Simpsons encyclopedia living in North Carolina and Steph was banned from the Simpsons as a kid and has suffered as a result.
Follow Nathan at @startstowearmedown on Instagram or twitter https://twitter.com/dustybooks , read more of his thoughts on music, movies and life at dusty-books.com , and get his newsletter at https://letterboxd.com/dustybooks/
CONTENT WARNING: Panic attacks and anxiety symptoms, phobia of flying, discussion of plane crashes, depression, coercive control, mental illness stigma, suicide, misogyny/toxic masculinity/shit husbandry, homophobia/transphobia
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Nathan Phillips
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com!
Check out our special music episode by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic
REFERENCES!:
They Shoot Lambeths Don't They?: How 'Moaning Lisa' Tackled Depression and it's Outcomes
The Andrew Blog: How 'Moaning Lisa' Learns to Make Something Out of Sadness
"The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by John Ortved
Talking Simpsons Interview with Mimi Pond
Neil Tesser's interview with Matt Groening in Playboy, 1990
Matt Groening Interview with The Advocate
The gay lifestyle magazine featuring Smithers (GENRE, not Out, apologies!), published March 1996.
Academy of Television Art and Science’s five hour interview with James L. Brooks (not Museum of Television and Radio as cited in show sorry!)
Marc Maron’s interview with Sam Simon
1995 interview with David Mirkin
Recent and rare extensive interview with legendary original simpsons write John Schwartzwelder
Longtime supervising director David Silverman's Twitter (https://twitter.com/tubatron) is an excellent source of information and he is very forthcoming with answering general production questions.
DSM classifications for Specific Phobia
DSM 3- TR Major Depressive Disorder
Audio commentaries, scripts and deleted scenes on the commercial DVD sets of Season 1 and Season 6.
Friday Apr 16, 2021
Friday Apr 16, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
Thanks for your patience lucky ducks, bet you were chomping at the bit to finish this episode! Here it is, PART 2 OF 2!
Brother of the podcast and editor Nic Fornasier joins Steph as they explore the dysfunctional family opus, The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), directed by Wes Anderson and written by Wes and Owen Wilson.
Together they ask the question, can narcissistic dads who abandon their kids make up for the resulting trauma? And if so does this movie portray this situation with nuance and respect? There is literally no way of knowing, except to listen to this episode, in two parts!
Part 2 focuses on the stereotypes and Wes-isms the movie portrays and perpetuates and whether it is done harmfully or helpfully!
CONTENT WARNING: Suicide, substance use and addiction (including personal experiences), depression, self harm, childhood emotional manipulation and neglect, cancer, discussions of sexual content, sex shaming, death of a family member, death of a dog, incest??
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost and editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast)
Email us: psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com
Buy us a coffee by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic
Listen to the Just the Gist podcast live show Steph attended at https://www.listnr.com/podcasts/just-the-gistand listen to Why Are Dads' podcast's take on the same movie at https://www.stitcher.com/show/why-are-dads
ARTICLES REFERENCED:
Vulture: How Wes Anderson Made the Royal Tenenbaums
Screen Rant: 10 behind the scenes facts about the Royal Tenenbaums
Abilene Christian University: Who's Your Daddy?: A Psychological Analysis of Father-Son Relationships in Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums
Little White Lies: How Wes Anderson’s families helped me recover from the breakdown of my own
University of Rhode Island: When the alternative becomes hegemonic: A textual analysis of the Royal Tenenbaums
The Dissolve: The Royal Tenenbaums forum: Failure, depression, and other varieties of family fun
The Jugular: The Psychology of Failure: The Royal Tenenbaums, Melancholy and Growing Pains
On Psychology and Neuroscience: The Life Psychotic with Wes Anderson
One Room With A View: The Royal Tenenbaums And The Art Of Tragicomedy
Screen Queens: #CriterionMonth: The sexist portrayal of Margot Tenenbaum in Wes Anderson’s the Royal Tenenbaums.
Flipscreened: The Wes Dispatch #3: Trauma, Grief and Accepting Help in ‘The Royal Tenenbaums
Wednesday Apr 14, 2021
Wednesday Apr 14, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
PART 1 OF 2!
Brother of the podcast and editor Nic Fornasier joins Steph as they explore the dysfunctional family opus, The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), directed by Wes Anderson and written by Wes and Owen Wilson.
Together they ask the question, can narcissistic dads who abandon their kids make up for the resulting trauma? And if so does this movie portray this situation with nuance and respect? There is literally no way of knowing, except to listen to this episode, in two parts!
Part 1 focuses on the various mental illnesses of the Tenenbaum family and how they relate to Nic and Steph's own lives. Part 2 will be delivered to you on Friday 16th April. Enjoy!
CONTENT WARNING: Suicide, substance use and addiction (including personal experiences), depression, self harm, childhood emotional manipulation and neglect, cancer, discussions of sexual content, death of a family member, death of a dog, incest??
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost and editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast)
Email us: psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com
Buy us a coffee by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic
Listen to the Just the Gist podcast live show Steph attended at https://www.listnr.com/podcasts/just-the-gist and listen to Why Are Dads' podcast's take on the same movie at https://www.stitcher.com/show/why-are-dads
ARTICLES REFERENCED:
Vulture: How Wes Anderson Made the Royal Tenenbaums
Screen Rant: 10 behind the scenes facts about the Royal Tenenbaums
Abilene Christian University: Who's Your Daddy?: A Psychological Analysis of Father-Son Relationships in Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums
Little White Lies: How Wes Anderson’s families helped me recover from the breakdown of my own
University of Rhode Island: When the alternative becomes hegemonic: A textual analysis of the Royal Tenenbaums
The Dissolve: The Royal Tenenbaums forum: Failure, depression, and other varieties of family fun
The Jugular: The Psychology of Failure: The Royal Tenenbaums, Melancholy and Growing Pains
On Psychology and Neuroscience: The Life Psychotic with Wes Anderson
One Room With A View: The Royal Tenenbaums And The Art Of Tragicomedy
Screen Queens: #CriterionMonth: The sexist portrayal of Margot Tenenbaum in Wes Anderson’s the Royal Tenenbaums.
Flipscreened: The Wes Dispatch #3: Trauma, Grief and Accepting Help in ‘The Royal Tenenbaums
Wednesday Mar 31, 2021
Wednesday Mar 31, 2021
TRANSCRIPT HERE
For our TENTH episode, Maz Fornasier joins us again as we dissect the ethereal adolescent world of The Virgin Suicides (1999) directed by Sofia Coppola and based on the novel by Jeffrey Eugenides. Listen as Maz and I explain our journey of love and hate of the film, and how it’s narration through the male gaze causes some problematic influence on the audience. BIG trigger warning, as we discuss suicide at length. (It’s also the title of the film).
Apologies to the audience for the weird sound quality today, and to Eugene Levy for everything.
CONTENT WARNING: Suicide, abuse and neglect, seclusion and containment, suicide, sex shaming, depression. Suicide.
PLEASE ALSO NOTE: Maz and I at times use the words “successful attempt” and “completed suicide” when discussing suicide. These terms stem from judgmental connotations and are to be avoided. We get it wrong sometimes and we apologize. We will aim to replace these words with neutral terms such as “suicidal behaviour” and “fatal suicide” when discussing these in future.
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Host: Stephanie Fornasier
Cohost: Maz Fornasier
Music and artwork: Michael Watson
Editor: Nicholas Fornasier
Find us on instagram, twitter and facebook @psychocinematicpodcast and join our patreon!
ARTICLES REFERENCED
Huffpost: Kirsten Dunst talks rehab
Oh! You pretty things: Imagine, emotion and the feminine sublime in Sofia Coppola's The Virgin Suicides
Film and Fishnet: The matyrdom of the Lisbon Sisters
Little White Lies: Girlhood and sexual repression in The Virgin Suicides and The Beguiled
The Guardian: Families in literature: The Lisbons in The Virgin Suicides by Jeffrey Eugenides
The Guardian: Sofia Coppola on making The Virgin Suicides: 'When I saw the rough cut I thought: Oh no, what have I done?
The Guardian: The Virgin Suicides at 20: Sofia Coppola's debut continues to haunt
Fighting Pressure from Both Sides: Gender and Feminism in the Virgin Suicides
The Simple Cinephile: The Virgin Suicides: ‘Girls Are Just Women in Disguise
Vulture: 25 Years Ago The Virgin Suicides Kicked Off the American Obsession With Teenage Tragedy
The Atlantic: Why The Virgin Suicides Is Still So Resonant Today
Literary Hub: Does The Virgin Suicides Hold Up 25 Years Later?
Scout: The sixth Lisbon: On having a ‘Virgin Suicides’ phase, and romanticizing mental illness
Bright Wall/ Dark Room: Issue 62: Body Woman is the Loneliest Creature: Growing up with The Virgin Suicides